UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Date of Report (Date of Earliest Event Reported): | November 5, 2015 |
TransEnterix, Inc.
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(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)
Delaware | 0-19437 | 11-2962080 |
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635 Davis Drive, Suite 300, Morrisville, North Carolina | 27560 | |
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Item 2.02 Results of Operations and Financial Condition.
On November 5, 2015, TransEnterix, Inc., a Delaware corporation (the "Company") issued a press release announcing its financial results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2015. A copy of the press releases is furnished herewith as Exhibit 99.1.
Also on November 5, 2015, following the issuance of the press release referred to above, the Company conducted a conference call to discuss the reported operating and financial results. A copy of the script of the conference call is furnished herewith as Exhibit 99.2.
The information included herein and in Exhibit 99.1 and Exhibit 99.2 shall not be deemed "filed" for purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 ("Exchange Act") or otherwise subject to the liabilities of that section, nor shall it be deemed incorporated by reference in any filing under the Securities Act of 1933 or the Exchange Act, except as expressly set forth by specific reference in such filing.
Item 9.01 Financial Statements and Exhibits.
Exhibit
No. Description
99.1 Press release, dated November 5, 2015
99.2 November 5, 2015 conference call script
SIGNATURES
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
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November 9, 2015 | By: |
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Exhibit Index
Exhibit No. | Description | |
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99.1
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Press release, dated November 5, 2015 | |
99.2
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November 5, 2015 conference call script |
Exhibit 99.1
Nov 5, 2015
TransEnterix, Inc. Reports Operating Results for the Third Quarter 2015
RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, N.C., (BUSINESS WIRE) TransEnterix, Inc. (NYSE MKT: TRXC), a medical device company that is pioneering the use of robotics to improve minimally invasive surgery, today announced its operating and financial results for the third quarter of 2015.
Operating Highlights
| Completed Acquisition of the Surgical Robotics Division of SOFAR S.p.A. |
| Remain on Track for Expected Second Quarter 2016 Launch of SurgiBot |
| Expanded Global Leadership Team with the Appointment of Three Senior Executives |
The third quarter was transformational for TransEnterix. We acquired the surgical robotics division of SOFAR in September, which positions us as a global surgical robotics company, said Todd M. Pope, President and Chief Executive Officer of TransEnterix. We are now focused on achieving FDA clearance for the SurgiBot and preparing for commercialization, as well as building the infrastructure to support the commercial launch of the ALF-X Surgical Robot in multiple countries that accept CE Mark.
For the three months ended September 30, 2015, the Company reported research and development expenses of $7.1 million, sales and marketing expenses of $0.4 million, general and administrative expenses of $1.8 million, and acquisition-related costs of $4.0 million. Operating expenses were primarily associated with the development of the SurgiBot System. On September 30, 2015, the Companys cash and cash equivalents totaled $52.9 million. Complete financial statements, including the acquisition of the Surgical Robotics Division of SOFAR S.p.A, will be presented in the Companys Form 10-Q for the third quarter of 2015.
Global Leadership Team Expansion
Three senior executives have recently been appointed to our global leadership team:
| Paul Ziegler was named Vice President of Sales in August 2015. Mr. Ziegler joins the company with over 11 years of medical device experience including managing capital and clinical sales in the surgical robotics industry. He most recently served as Regional Vice President of Sales at Intuitive Surgical, Inc. (Nasdaq: ISRG) and will lead our sales efforts in the United States; |
| Anthony Fernando was appointed Vice President International Development in August, 2015. Mr. Fernando joins the company with over 15 years of experience driving business growth through innovation in healthcare companies. He most recently served as Vice President of Innovation and Technology within the international group of Stryker Corporation (NYSE: SYK). Mr. Fernando is currently leading the integration of the Surgical Robotics Division of SOFAR; |
| Steven Boudrez was recently appointed Vice President of Sales, Europe. Mr. Boudrez joins the company with nearly 20 years of medical technology sales experience, including 12 years in international sales leadership positions at Intuitive Surgical, Inc. He will lead our sales efforts in Europe. |
Paul, Anthony and Steven are key additions to TransEnterix global leadership team, said Mr. Pope. Collectively, these executives bring over 40 years of significant global medical device expertise along with in depth knowledge of surgical robotics and a proven track record of delivering sustained growth.
Conference Call
TransEnterix, Inc. will host a conference call on Thursday, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:30 AM ET to discuss its 2015 third quarter operating and financial results. To listen to the conference call on your telephone, please dial (888) 417-8465 for domestic callers or (719) 325-2494 for international callers approximately ten minutes prior to the start time. Management will refer to a presentation that is available for download on the Companys website. To download the presentation or to access the live audio webcast or archived recording, use the following link http://ir.transenterix.com/events.cfm. The replay will be available on the Companys website.
About TransEnterix
TransEnterix is a medical device company that is pioneering the use of robotics to improve minimally invasive surgery by addressing the clinical and economic challenges associated with current laparoscopic and robotic options. The company is focused on the development and commercialization of the SurgiBot System, a single-port, robotically enhanced laparoscopic surgical platform, and the commercialization of ALF-X®, a multi-port robotic system that brings the advantages of robotic surgery to patients while enabling surgeons with innovative technology such as haptic feedback and eye tracking camera control. The SurgiBot System is not yet available for sale in any market. The ALF-X has been granted a CE Mark but is not available for sale in the US. For more information, visit the TransEnterix website at www.transenterix.com.
Forward Looking Statements
This press release includes statements relating to initial third quarter 2015 results and the SurgiBot System, the ALF-X® System and our current regulatory and commercialization plans for these products. These statements and other statements regarding our future plans and goals constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that are often difficult to predict, are beyond our control, and which may cause results to differ materially from expectations, including whether we will achieve clearance for the SurgiBot System from the FDA and launch the SurgiBot in the 2016 second quarter, and whether we will be able to successfully commercialize the SurgiBot System and the ALF-X System. For a discussion of the most significant risks and uncertainties associated with TransEnterixs business, please review our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), including our Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q filed on August 6, 2015, our other filings we make with the SEC and our Form 10-Q for the 2015 third quarter expected to be filed on or before the due date. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, which are based on our expectations as of the date of this press release and speak only as of the origination date of this press release. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Investor Contact:
Westwicke Partners
Mark Klausner, 443-213-0501
transenterix@westwicke.com
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Media Contact:
TransEnterix, Inc.
Mohan Nathan, 919-917-6559
mnathan@transenterix.com
Source: TransEnterix, Inc.
EXHIBIT 99.2
TRANSENTERIX, INC.
Moderator: Mark Klausner
November 5, 2015
7:30 am CT
Operator: Please standby. Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the TransEnterix 2015 third quarter conference call. As a reminder, this conference call is being webcast live and recorded. |
It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Mark Klausner of Westwood Partners. Please go ahead sir.
Mark Klausner: Good morning and thank you for joining us for TransEnterixs third quarter conference call. Joining us on todays call are TransEnterixs President and Chief Executive Officer, Todd Pope and its Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Joe Slattery. |
I would like to remind you that this call is being webcast live and recorded. A replay of
the event will be available following the call on our Web site. To access the webcast,
please visit the Events link in the IR section of our Web site, www.TransEnterix.com.
In addition, on todays call, management will be referring to a presentation that is
available for download in the investor relations section of the companys Web site.
Before I begin, I would like to caution listeners that certain information discussed by
management during this conference call, are forward looking statements covered under the
Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by our forward looking
statements, due to risks and uncertainties associated with the companys business. The
company undertakes no obligation to update information provided on this call.
For a discussion of risks and uncertainties associated with TransEnterixs business, I
encourage you to review the companys filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission,
including the quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed on August 6, 2015 and the Form 10-Q for
the quarter ended September 30, 2015, expected to be filed shortly.
With that, its my pleasure to turn the call over to TransEnterixs President and Chief
Executive Officer, Todd Pope.
Todd Pope: Thank you Mark and welcome to our third quarter call. Weve made tremendous progress this quarter. Weve completed the acquisition of the Surgical Robotics Division of SOFAR. |
We now have two compelling platforms that we want to talk to you about today, both the ALF-X
and the SurgiBot. If youll follow me on slide 5, I want to talk to you for a moment about
what we believe is the robotics surgery growth drivers in the future.
We talked to surgeons and administrators around the world. We constantly ask what will
unlock the next wave of growth in robotics? There are three common themes that come back to
us. First, build platforms that mimic laparoscopy.
Second, bring technology to bear that can address some of the trade-offs that surgeons are
required to make when they use current robotics. And thirdly, bring compelling economic
value to hospitals both with capital and per procedure cost.
We believe that SurgiBot and ALF-X were both designed to meet these needs. I want to go a
little deeper into each one of those growth drivers. On slide 6, building on the success of
laparoscopy. Today, traditional laparoscopy certainly remains the dominant form of minimally
invasive surgery.
There are 6 million laparoscopic procedures done each year between US and Europe. And in
Europe alone, there are 30 times more laparoscopic surgeries done each year, than robotics
surgery. Surgeons are experienced with the approach where to put their trocars and how to
move their instruments.
Both of our platforms ALF-X and SurgiBot, mimic laparoscopy. Next slide, there are some
trade-offs that are still required when it comes to using laparoscopy. Im going to talk
about each one of those and how our platforms address those.
First and foremost, surgeons still have to rely on an assistant to control the camera.
Theyre not in control of the vision during the procedure. Certainly both the SurgiBot and
the ALF-X puts that control back in the surgeons hands or eyes.
Challenging ergonomics as you see on slide 7, surgeons with laparoscopies get in very
difficult positions and they have to stand there for many hours in some instances. And this
leads to fatigue and tremor. Robotic platforms like SurgiBot and ALF-X, can definitely
address these.
And lastly, with robotics, precision movement is one of the big advantages that allows
surgeons to do precise movements, especially when it comes to suturing around delicate
organs and vessels. Now if we move to slide 8 we want to talk about really the second growth
driver.
We believe that robotics today for all the great things that it offers, certainly some
technology can be brought to market that addresses some of the current trade-offs that
surgeons are asked to make. First and foremost is no haptic feedback with current robotics.
Surgeons constantly tell us that they want to be able to feel tissue when theyre
interacting with tissue, bone, suturing. And the SurgiBot allows that with a direct drive
system, actually having your hands on the instruments that youre using. And ALF-X has
haptic feedback built in.
Surgeons are truly able to feel their interactions with tissue as they go through the
surgery. Next, camera movement with current robotics surgeons have to disengage their
instruments and take both of their hands to take control of the camera and move it to the
next plane within the surgical field.
Certainly with SurgiBot the surgeons are allowed to do that on their own. And with ALF-X, as
many of you have seen, it actually has eye tracking software that allows wherever the
surgeon looks on the screen the camera will follow.
This enables the first robotic platform that can remove that can move three robotic arms
simultaneously. Also, disengagement with the surgical field surgeons like to be involved.
See whos in the surgical field and communicate easily.
SurgiBot they are within the sterile field. And with ALF-X they have an open platform and
they can see and communicate with the OR very easily. And lastly, minimally invasiveness is
important. With current robotics, the majority of the trocar sizes that are used are 8 mm.
But if you go back to traditional laparoscopy, most of those trocars are 5 mm. Our ALF-X
system also has a 5 mm trocar platform which allows people less invasiveness. And lastly,
ability to reposition the patient many surgeries require the patient to be moved whether
its head up, head down.
Its very cumbersome to do that today with robotics. And we can easily do that with both of
our platforms. So we feel like this second growth driver of, you know, addressing some of
these trade-offs that are required today, are met very nicely by both of our platforms.
And thirdly, on slide 9, talk a little bit about the economic value. Certainly we hear from
hospitals that theyre concerned about both capital, acquisition cost and per procedure
cost. The SurgiBot is able to have a very unique lower capital acquisition cost upfront.
And ALF-X is able to mimic the same pricing structure that hospitals currently enjoy, with
traditional laparoscopy. This is important because robotics doesnt enjoy a special
reimbursement code. They use current existing laparoscopic codes.
So they like to be able to try to keep as close to what theyve been used with per procedure
cost and laparoscopy. And were able to do that with our ALF-X platform.
So, you know, the last three or four slides we just really wanted to review how both of
these platforms address the three key significant growth drivers that we believe are going
to drive the next wave of growth in robotics. Now Im going to hand the call over to Joe
Slattery.
Joe Slattery: Thank you Todd. Turning to slide 10 Im going to go over some of the key financial highlights of the quarter. |
The acquisition of the ALF-X technology requires us to allocate a portion of the purchase
price to the net assets acquired, including an assessment of identifiable and tangible
assets, as well as the recognition of goodwill.
Because in identifiable and tangible assets, such as in process R&D, are amortized, these
non-cash items are expected to be material to our financial statements. With the acquisition
having occurred so late in the quarter, we are currently in the process of concluding our
analysis.
As a result, our complete financial statements will be provided in our Form 10-K 10-Q to
be filed next week. Today I will provide the key financial highlights of the quarter.
We recognize no revenue or cost of goods sold in the third quarter of 2015, as our efforts
remain focused on the development of SurgiBot and the advancement in commercialization of
the ALF-X system.
Research and development expenses were $7.1 million in the third quarter of 2015, compared
with $9.1 million in the third quarter of 2014.
The decrease in R&D spend resulted primarily from decreased contract and consulting service
expenses and parts and supplies related to the development of the SurgiBot system. Sales and
marketing expenses were relatively unchanged at $.4 million in the third quarter of 2015
compared to $.5 million in the prior year period.
General and administrative expenses, were $1.8 million in the third quarter of 2015 as
compared to $1.5 million in the prior year period. The increase was primarily due to
increased personnel and stock compensation costs, partially offset by decreased public
company costs.
Costs related to the acquisition of SOFAR Surgical Robotics Division, were $4 million during
the quarter. Looking at the balance sheet, we finished the quarter with $52.9 million in
cash and cash equivalents.
During the third quarter of 2015, our cash decreased by $18.2 million which represents
approximately $8.5 million in cash used for operations, $25 million paid to SOFAR for the
ALF-X system purchase, approximately $400,000 in property and equipment investment offset by
the net proceeds from the issuance of common stock of $5.8 million, and proceeds from
issuance of debt of $9.9 million.
We believe our current cash will fund operations into the third quarter of 2016. While this
outlook represents an increase in our quarterly cash use as compared to past results. As we
transition to the commercial phase, our cash will be invested in inventory and other working
capital.
As our sales begin to ramp next year, we expect our quarterly operating cash requirements to
decrease relatively quickly. Overall, the combination provides for much faster revenue
growth, shorter time to cash flow breakeven and lower overall operating cash requirements
through cash flow breakeven.
We expect to achieve breakeven in terms of cash needs, by the end of 2018. Ill now hand the
call back to Todd.
Todd Pope: Thank you Joe. On slide 11 were going to talk to you about things weve done to prepare for commercial success in third quarter. And subsequently, weve made significant progress toward commercialization of both our platforms. On slide 12 well talk to you a little bit about SurgiBot. |
We have prepared our response for the AI and continuing to work on that, those requested
from the FDA in August. And we plan to get approval in the first quarter of 16 and launch
in the second quarter of 16 with the SurgiBot.
This is consistent with our timeframe that weve been communicating over the past year. We
also hired Paul Ziegler to be our Vice President of Sales. Pauls got deep industry
experience. This was an extensive search that we took a year in the process.
We are very excited about him joining our team. Hes got extensive experience in not only
medical technology but Surgical Robotics. And he spent a lot of time both on the capital
sales side and clinical experience. So were very pleased to have him leading up our sales
and commercial efforts.
And he now is beginning to build out his team heading into the Q4 as we have communicated in
the past. Slide 13 we turn our attention a little bit to our ALF-X platform. As you know,
weve completed that acquisition back in September. Were integrating that technology and
the team.
Right now Anthony Fernando we mentioned in our press release were very excited to have
Anthony join our team. He comes from Stryker, where he was the Vice President of Innovation
and technology for the international group.
At Stryker hes got a long history not only in MedTech, in technology but in international
operations. So were very happy to have him on the team and everything on our integration is
on track.
We also recently this earlier this week, announced Steven Boudrez is joining the team for
our Vice President of Sales in Europe. Steven also began his career in technology with
Ethicon Endo-Surgery and spent the last 13 years in surgical robotics.
Hes really been involved with the surgical robotics business in Europe from the beginning
and has a wealth of experience in (Rolodex) thats going to help us build our platform and
our team very quickly.
And we continue to believe that our first commercial sale of the ALF-X platform will happen
in the first quarter of 2016. So as we look at slide 14, Weve been quite responsive to
market interest, closing the deal September 21st. Weve had a very busy October. Weve been
at the French Surgery Congress and also the Endo-Urology World Conference in London.
The American College of Surgery in Chicago. We were in Italy for two meetings both with
urology and general surgeons. Ill just take a moment to comment on the American College of
Surgery meeting in Chicago. Several of you were there. This was an exciting time for us. It
was the first time that we had the SurgiBot in our booth on the floor of a large conference.
The traffic was really nonstop and the feedback, you know, was excellent. We continue to
hear people comment on their excitement around the single port technology and surgeons
capability to operate with robotics by being in the sterile field, which is tremendous.
We also have the ALF-X there in a room off of the convention floor. We had many surgeons
from CE Mark countries. The ALF-X does have an active CE Mark so we were able to bring them
in and let them demonstrate the system and see it in action.
A lot of positive feedback especially about two things continued to resonate. First, is
eye tracking software for surgeons to be able to control the camera with their eyes, was
very enabling.
They now will be able to operate both robotic arms, left and right and the camera arm, all
simultaneously, which is new. It really opened up a lot of thought about different
procedures that they feel like they can do robotically now.
And certainly the ability to have haptic feedback. Surgeons are used to having their hands
be a real resonator of when theyre operating in the surgical field and to be able to have
that on a robotic platform was generating a tremendous amount of interest.
So our last slide, this is our vision slide. Many of you have heard us talk about that in
the past. Really being focused on improving clinical outcomes in patient care through
robotics. I think you can see why were so bullish on the future of TransEnterix.
As we look back on this last quarter, since we were with you on our last call, we made a lot
of progress on the SurgiBot platform. Weve completed our ALF-X acquisition. Weve made
significant executive hires that really shore up our team and prepare us for our execution
in the future.
And our line of sight in 2016 is Q1 revenue with the ALF-X platform and certainly a SurgiBot
approval in 2016 revenue on that platform. So with that, were going to turn it over to Q&A
and look forward to talking with you through that process.
Operator: Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen if youd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If youre using a speakerphone please make sure that your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. |
Once again, that is star 1 if youd like to ask a question. Well pause for just a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions. And once again, ladies and gentlemen that is star 1. Well take our first question from Rick Wise with Stifel.
Rick Wise: Good morning Todd. Let me let me start off with FDA you indicated that youve got your questions and youre preparing to respond. Just any additional color there were the questions as expected? Do you I mean is the response likely to be filed in the next day, week, month? |
I mean obviously, your general timing youve reiterated. But just any color about where you stand there?
Todd Pope: Yes. Good morning Rick. You know, the FDA I would characterize our interactions with them as, as expected. We had a detailed submission and the additional information requests were along the lines that we had anticipated. |
So were in close contact as you always are with the agency when youre responding. And we want to reiterate our timing that we believe a first quarter approval will be in line for us.
Rick Wise: Okay. As you indicated, youve hired two senior sales leaders. Maybe looking out over the next year, when you based on your current thoughts and assuming US approval for a SurgiBot, what how do we think about just in the broadest sense, the number of reps you would like to have as you exit 2016 in the US and internationally? |
Again, any color or just your early preliminary perspective there.
Todd Pope: Well I would say weve got to take those, you know, in separate buckets. As far as Steven Boudrez in Europe, with the ALF-X having an active CE Mark, well be building out that commercial team, you know, right away. |
Well be bringing on some hires in the fourth quarter of this year and then building it from
there in 2016. Certainly Paul is laying down a lot of the planning process. He will also
begin to bring on people to his commercial team in the fourth quarter of this year.
And then build ahead of our anticipated launch in the second quarter.
Rick Wise: And just if I could push a little bit on that Todd, its like so you when we think about for each in each geography in 12 months, maybe five to ten reps? Just Im trying to get sort of an order of magnitude sub-10; plus, you know, ten or just how about... |
Todd Pope: Yes. |
Rick Wise:...frame it a little bit? |
Todd Pope: Yes. I mean I think your five to ten in each geography, is fair Rick. I mean obviously weve not sold a system in either geography. And I think a little bit of that will dictate it. But the early interest with ALF-X with an approved product. Weve just been to five conferences in October. The interest is high. |
So were going to be beginning to build that team. So I think those numbers that you mentioned are accurate.
Rick Wise: Okay. And just one last one from me. Just remind us again, maybe you talk a little bit more about how you see the European opportunity, the size, I mean the the your early thoughts on the number of hospitals or centers youre going to target. |
And I mean I mean after all these years my impression is that your major competitor has 500 and something approaching 600 robots in Europe. Is that the market size? Is it bigger? You know, help us think about that a little bit, as you get ready to launch or, you know, step up your launch.
Todd Pope: Sure. Well I think whenever you think about the market, right now theres just one system out there. So were really talking about penetration from one system. And to your point, theres been great success. I believe theres over 570 units placed with the current technology in Europe. |
And I think thats a good start of the market. I just think when we think about the market,
you know, we just listen to feedback. We talk to hospitals. We talk to executives in
hospitals and certainly surgeons. And what we hear is that they really like the features of
robotics. They really do.
But they say that if there were ability to use robotic technology without some of these
drawbacks today if they were able to move the camera on their own, if they were able to
easily reposition the patient without having to buy extra technology, if they were able to
continue to use 5 mm trocars if they were able to have haptic feedback, they tell us that
they think the market as far as procedure adoption, will be quite larger.
Then when you couple that in Europe, especially in Europe when you tell hospitals we can
take your robotic per procedure cost and have it be equal to laparoscopic surgery, thats
significant. Because in many times their current robotic per procedure cost is 200% to 300%
higher.
So when you add those two things together, we think about the market being a lot more
procedures that could potentially be positively impacted by robotic technology.
And, you know, as we think about trying to boil that down, obviously weve not given
numbers, but we think 2016 can provide meaningful revenue for our company in CE Mark
countries.
Rick Wise: I appreciate that. Thanks Todd. |
Todd Pope: Thanks Rick. |
Operator: Well move on to Glenn Novarro with RBC Capital Markets. |
(Brandon): Yes. Thanks for taking my question. This is actually (Brandon) on for Glenn. So a couple of questions. First, remind us when when do you expect to respond to the FDA for SurgiBot? And what is still left to do there in terms of your response? |
And then how long does the FDA have to reply to your response? And what gives you confidence that the FDA will accept the submission and there wont be a second round of questions?
Todd Pope: Yes. Hello (Brandon). Thanks for the question. Typically a (510K) process is 90 days. And usually, the agency tries to respond to your first submission within 60 days. Then you have a timeframe that you can take to get all your communication with the FDA in response, in. |
And then after your response goes back in, they typically respond within 30 days. And thats
what makes up that 90 day period. So we are expecting a first quarter 2016 approval. And
thats consistent with what weve said. So our response would be within that timeframe.
And I would say just our confidence stems from what weve highlighted in the past. We sat
down personally with the FDA in 2013 and started crafting our submission and our work. We
took the extra step to do a pre-submission that we delivered March 31st of last year, to the
agency.
They responded back to us formally, in writing, later that summer. Gave us feedback. And
then we followed all of that guidance in learning from our interactions with the FDA to put
our submission in.
And we continue to interface with the FDA regularly as they have typical questions on a
submission like this. So the timeframe thats how it lays out. And certainly our
confidence is just (worn) from our close working relationship with them over the last two
years.
(Brandon): Okay. And then separately, can you give us any update on the ALF-X approval timeline in the US, like when you expect to file for the approval and what indications do you expect to file for? Will it be a broad label like SurgiBot? |
And then can you give us anymore clarity around when US approval may occur? Is it first half 17, second half 17?
Todd Pope: Yes. I mean right now all were really comfortable saying is that we expect that 2017 approval. We will sit down with the agency just like we did with SurgiBot and talk about the language of the CE Mark approval. And the CE Mark approval has approvals for general surgery, GYN, urology and thoracic. |
So and we will have a, you know, a good experience in the market with the ALF-X by the time we file. So well sit down with the FDA and discuss all this prior to our submission and we prefer not to talk about things publicly until weve sat with them.
(Brandon): Okay. And then kind of last question for me are there certain international markets you will go direct in versus having a distributor? And then are you close to finding distributors in any major markets? Just kind of any update there. Thanks. |
Todd Pope: Yes. Thanks (Brandon). Certainly as you look at like the CE Mark countries, there are certain geographies that different technologies and companies it makes sense to partner with a distributor and then certainly some it makes sense to go direct. |
And we are in those discussions now. We know the markets very well. All of us kind of around
the senior management table, have been involved with growing high growth MedTech companies
in Europe and abroad. So weve got good relationships with the distributors.
And we are in, you know, active conversations with many distributors. And Steven, coming
onboard this prior week, has 13 years of selling robotics in Europe also. So well be
crafting that strategy and, you know, probably enlighten you more going into our next call
in March of next year.
(Brandon): Okay. Thank you. |
Todd Pope: Thanks (Brandon). |
Operator: Well move onto Greg Chodaczek with CRT Capital. |
Greg Chodaczek: Thanks. And good morning Todd and Joe. Just a quick question you were talking about the features and procedure costs for the ALF-X. And I guess Im assuming doctors like the features, hospitals like the procedure costs. Is that correct? Or they both like both? |
Todd Pope: Well I would say that, you know, certainly in MedTech, I think that that environment has changed. Today, especially in the US, so many surgeons are actually employees of the hospital now that they are much more aligned with performance and compensation around the cost of their their procedures. |
So I think the days are gone of surgeons pounding their hand on the table saying what
technology they want. Theyre involved with the economics also. So they certainly are the
most keyed in on features because theyre the ones using it day in and day out.
But I would say administrators and surgeons are equally invested in costs.
Greg Chodaczek: And so the the European doctors that you saw in Chicago, were talking about procedure costs also, not just hey wow, these are great features, I want this thing? |
Todd Pope: Absolutely because think about it. Theres been a nice theres been a nice growth of capital placement of robotics in Europe. But if you really dig into utilization, I rarely hear people say that they dont like operating with the robot, they like some of the technology thats brought. |
But theres only a few number of procedures that really make sense that you could
potentially ask a hospital to double or triple their per procedure costs and still have, you
know, good utilization. So when they hear per procedure costs similar to laparoscopy they
think great, this is good for my patient.
I can take the benefits of robotic technology and use it across many more procedures. So,
you know, that thats what we hear when we talk to European surgeons both at ACS and
certainly this last month, where weve attended that many conferences.
Greg Chodaczek: Right. And thats kind of what were hearing with our connections, that its a per procedure cost that kind of limits what they can use your competitor for on certain cases. |
And that gets back to, can you remind me about the 5 mm tool set or instruments for the ALF-X? What do you have; whats CE Marked; why theyre cheaper than your competitor? Can you go through that again please?
Todd Pope: Sure. With the ALF-X, we really wanted to try to mimic laparoscopy in the development. The majority of laparoscopic procedures today, use 5 mm trocars and 5 mm instruments. The majority of robotic procedures today, use 8 mm trocars and 8 mm instruments. |
So when we were developing the ALF-X we wanted to try to have a 5 mm tool set. And today we
have over 20 instruments that are approved CE Mark. The majority of those are 5 mm. There
are a few that are larger.
But thats thats the size and why we try to develop that less invasive, is typically
viewed better for patient outcomes. And then lastly, the cost is fairly simple. In
laparoscopy, the majority of those instruments used in traditional laparoscopy are reusable
with a few of them being disposable.
With our ALF-X system the same holds true. The majority of our instruments are reusable with a few high valued instruments are disposable. And with, you know, other platforms the instruments are only able to be used a certain amount of time and then they need to be replenished.
Greg Chodaczek: Excellent. And last but not least, can I assume, and this is way out but can I assume some of the technology from ALF-X may get integrated into SurgiBot 2.0? |
Todd Pope: Yes. Its a its a good assumption. Were certainly looking at our technology roadmap. Id say that goes both ways. Weve got some great technology with SurgiBot and some great technology with ALF-X. |
And as we look at a future roadmap, we see that both platforms can share some features and benefits with one another just to strengthen our future iterations.
Greg Chodaczek: Right. Thanks Todd. Thanks Joe. |
Todd Pope: Thank you Greg. |
Joe Slattery: Thanks Greg. |
Operator: Moving on to Jeff Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann. |
Jeff Cohen: Oh hi, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. |
Joe Slattery: Hi Jeff. |
Jeff Cohen: Joe, could you clarify what you were talking about when you were rolling through some of the metrics on the balance sheet? I got up to so 25 cash was paid for the ALF-X acquisition and 5.8 common; 9.9 debt issuance, is that correct? |
Joe Slattery: Thats right. And roughly the... |
Jeff Cohen: Okay. |
Joe Slattery:...rest, the remaining $8.9 million was, you know, operating of 8.5 and 400,000 of capital. |
Jeff Cohen: Okay. And the the $4 million acquisition expense do you expect some expense to be in the fourth quarter or beyond into 16? |
Joe Slattery: We we think we have the entire expense fully accrued into the third quarter with that number. |
Jeff Cohen: Okay. Got it. And Todd, you were recently talking about the the ALF-X instrumentation. Are there any follow on R&D projects as far as any other instruments that you may be adding? |
Todd Pope: I think what weve spoken about is in 2016 we will have an advance synergy platform. Thats got most of our focus right now, on instrumentation development. |
Jeff Cohen: Okay. Got it. And could you talk a little bit about provided we see a SurgiBot approval in the next few months, how that may play out for a CE Mark or as far as your timeframe and integration of European sales both direct and through distributors for SurgiBot? |
Todd Pope: Yes. So and similar to what weve said about ALF-X, we think were anticipating 2017 to have ALF-X approved with a (510K) and similarly with SurgiBot CE Mark in 2017. |
Jeff Cohen: Okay. So activities which start shortly thereafter a US approval for a CE Mark, we should expect? |
Todd Pope: Yes. |
Jeff Cohen: Okay. Perfect. Thanks for taking the questions. |
Todd Pope: Thanks Jeff. |
Joe Slattery: Thanks Jeff. |
Operator: Thank you. Well move onto Bruce Jackson with Lake Street Capital Markets. |
Bruce Jackson: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. If we could get some more color on the the European launch preparations, that would be great. Youre youre making some hires, youre talking to distributors. Can you tell us a little bit more about what the anticipated revenue uptick might be? |
Are there any local regulations or tender procedures that might affect the timeline?
Todd Pope: Yes. Good morning Bruce. I would say that, you know, first off all start that, you know, we have been going through an aggressive recruiting process to get our sales leadership in place. |
And the hiring of Steven Boudrez which we just announced earlier this week, on Tuesday, is
really that first foundational building block. Were tremendously excited. He was certainly
our number one choice and were able to be able to get him onboard and were excited about
that.
He now is just really beginning to build out his thought process on structure and team,
meeting with distributors in the coming weeks and certainly meeting with a lot of customers.
So I would say that, you know, the more color and, you know, guidance for what well be
doing in 16, will be reviewed in our next conference call.
Joe Slattery: Yes. And Bruce, its Joe. I would just add that, you know, you you spoke about the capital cycle and certainly the way we think about that is efforts going into the capital cycle over the next few months, are really going to, you know, show results late next year. |
But we do have significant inbound interest in the system. We have already in place, a
couple of clinical sites where surgeons are able to go see procedures. Weve got a fully
functional demo lab in Milan thats very active. Our trade show schedule has is full and
the attendance has been very high.
So there are many targets that we see that will allow us to work outside of the traditional
capital environment, particularly when youre talking about academic centers and existing
placements. And we really do have an opportunity to have some nontraditional revenue.
But certainly that is going to be, you know, where we would get most of our results over the
first and second quarter of next year. And, you know, our internal assumption is those will
be, you know, moderate sales expectations. And then the ramp will really take place in the
second half of the year.
Bruce Jackson: Yes. Thats great. Thank you. |
Todd Pope: Thanks Bruce. |
Operator: Thank you. At this time there appears there are no further questions at this time. Mr. Pope, Id like to turn the conference back over to you for any additional or closing remarks. |
Todd Pope: Great. Thanks again for joining us today for our third quarter call. We look forward to updating you on our progress the next quarter. And thank you again. |
Operator: And ladies and gentlemen that does conclude todays conference. Thank you for your participation. |
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